tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post111573569009063106..comments2023-11-13T04:15:43.184-06:00Comments on Cantànima: Sex, violence, and filmjack perryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1117544593305143292005-05-31T08:03:00.000-05:002005-05-31T08:03:00.000-05:00I can believe sex without consequences much easier...<I>I can believe sex without consequences much easier than one guy beating 10 other without getting hurt, so that's why I believe violence is not more realistically depicted.</I><BR/><BR/>That's a good point. I was going to ask, <I>How often does that happen?</I> but I really don't know.<BR/><BR/><I>sex is much more complex in itself and in it's consequences and these are much harder to express jack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1117392451142604292005-05-29T13:47:00.000-05:002005-05-29T13:47:00.000-05:00When I talk about violence, I mean some guy beatin...When I talk about violence, I mean some guy beating some other(s). Although this is not the only way of violence in movies, this is the most general I believe, I include war movies here too.<BR/><BR/>I can believe sex without consequences much easier than one guy beating 10 other without getting hurt, so that's why I believe violence is not more realistically depicted.<BR/><BR/>Also, sex is much Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1116967249664990512005-05-24T15:40:00.000-05:002005-05-24T15:40:00.000-05:00Dear Zsolt,I believe movies are not about reality ...Dear Zsolt,<BR/><BR/><I>I believe movies are not about reality in its purest form...</I><BR/><BR/>True enough. However, it seems to me that those films that <I>do</I> aspire to approximate reality are less likely to portray irresponsible violence in a romantic light, and more likely to portray irresponsible sexual acts in a romantic light.<BR/><BR/><I>...and that depicting the consequences of onejack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1116599480932414812005-05-20T09:31:00.000-05:002005-05-20T09:31:00.000-05:00I believe movies are not about reality in its pure...I believe movies are not about reality in its purest form, and that depicting the consequences of one act doesn't make it more real, especially not in the case of sex vs. violence. The consequences of sex are too complex I guess for the needs of most directors needs anyway.<BR/><BR/>I believe the answer to the original question must be sought in the relation between our everyday reality and the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1116257623035084052005-05-16T10:33:00.000-05:002005-05-16T10:33:00.000-05:00I disagree in the sense that gratuitous violence i...<I>I disagree in the sense that gratuitous violence is part of a lot of American "entertainment."</I><BR/><BR/>Perhaps I shouldn't have said "most Americans", but rather "a large number of Americans". In my experience, these tend to be the same who are uncomfortable with sex depicted onscreen. I have to emphasize that this is <I>my</I> experience.<BR/><BR/><I>to what extent do we get a realistic jack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1115973921292500932005-05-13T03:45:00.000-05:002005-05-13T03:45:00.000-05:00you commented on my blog:"She looked unhealthily s...you commented on my blog:<BR/>"She looked unhealthily slender; needlessly to say, that is almost certainly historically inaccurate (from what I've read, medievals preferred their women plump)."<BR/><BR/>ah yes, but box office profits today come from thin women :-)<BR/><BR/>I had never seen this actress before, and in KofH I didn't notice she was that thin, since you almost always just see her Alessandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13471481963237568388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1115973444880194732005-05-13T03:37:00.000-05:002005-05-13T03:37:00.000-05:00this is an excerpt of a review of Dreamers: Les ...this is an excerpt of a review of Dreamers:<BR/> Les enfants terribles Isabelle and Theo are involved in an incestuous relationship. Both are attracted to Matthew. On one level, ``The Dreamers'' is a ``Jules and Jim'' for the new millennium, an hommage to threesomes and the French New Wave filmmakers who were the children of the cinemateque.<BR/> But the writing is often banal - there is Alessandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13471481963237568388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1115972520512803372005-05-13T03:22:00.000-05:002005-05-13T03:22:00.000-05:00Last night, for example, I watched Kingdom of Heav...Last night, for example, I watched Kingdom of Heaven. The film itself is escapist fantasy and emotional self-gratification on an epic scale; nevertheless, by the standard I'm applying here, the violence is depicted quite realistically, especially as compared to the sex. I have to emphasize: by the standard I'm applying here.<BR/><BR/>Given that, I'd say that the American attitude towards sex and Alessandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13471481963237568388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1115972450919276302005-05-13T03:20:00.000-05:002005-05-13T03:20:00.000-05:00"I'm not saying that it doesn't happen in some fil..."I'm not saying that it doesn't happen in some films, mind you; I'm merely pointing out that sex is almost never depicted with regard to consequences in film. Sex in film is always romanticized; it is always a fantasy without consequences to anyone involved (except good feelings). One cannot say this about films that depict violence."<BR/><BR/>That's an interesting point. Sex is usually very Alessandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13471481963237568388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1115972041562373222005-05-13T03:14:00.000-05:002005-05-13T03:14:00.000-05:00" I raise the point only to illustrate that Americ..." I raise the point only to illustrate that Americans are not happy-go-lucky with all violence, especially the romanticized violence of (say) The Matrix."<BR/><BR/>to what extent do we get a realistic picture of American society by this generalization? I would say many millions of Americans are comfortable with various types of violence as entertainment and there are those who aren't. Certainly Alessandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13471481963237568388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1115971712807207722005-05-13T03:08:00.000-05:002005-05-13T03:08:00.000-05:00"I think most Americans are also uncomfortable wit..."I think most Americans are also uncomfortable with excessive violence. "<BR/><BR/>I disagree in the sense that gratuitous violence is part of a lot of American "entertainment." I also disagree about what qualifies as "excessive" violence (we obviously have different criteria for it).Alessandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13471481963237568388noreply@blogger.com