tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post113137728931400881..comments2023-11-13T04:15:43.184-06:00Comments on Cantànima: An inconvenience of atheismjack perryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1132298634590178332005-11-18T01:23:00.000-06:002005-11-18T01:23:00.000-06:00I agree to disagree and let this be the final conc...I agree to disagree and let this be the final conclusion. :)<BR/><BR/>By the way, I was thinking about your case to defend and maybe it's impossible to prove it, because if it was possible, then other people would've done it centuries ago, and there would exist a magic formula that would convince everybody and we wouldn't have to have faith in God. But faith exists. An interesting question is, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1132263342471932152005-11-17T15:35:00.000-06:002005-11-17T15:35:00.000-06:00Hey what happened to your website and blog, anyway...Hey what happened to your website and blog, anyway? you're Zsolt Minier, right?jack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1132261640184920992005-11-17T15:07:00.000-06:002005-11-17T15:07:00.000-06:00Yes, but you're not right either in saying that re...<I>Yes, but you're not right either in saying that religion is required to keep the world a good place.</I><BR/><BR/>I think I'm right; you think I'm not right. I suppose here we'll have to agree to disagree, since we're going in circles now. :-)<BR/><BR/>But, if you do find a situation where Greenpeace prevented a war, let me know. I would like to know.jack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1132226779447467962005-11-17T05:26:00.000-06:002005-11-17T05:26:00.000-06:00Before I answer, what exactly is your goal in this...<I> Before I answer, what exactly is your goal in this dialogue? I'm not really sure what your point is here.</I><BR/><BR/>I have no goal at all, I just promised, I'd answer as long as you do. When you feel like we should stop because this conversation won't lead anywhere, I'll stop, as that's what I'm wishing for too. Plus, I don't think I'm any good at dialogues, and certainly not about Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1132174865800350622005-11-16T15:01:00.000-06:002005-11-16T15:01:00.000-06:00Before I answer, what exactly is your goal in this...Before I answer, what exactly is your goal in this dialogue? I'm not really sure what your point is here.<BR/><BR/><I>Plus, there's the posibility of amnesty in your lifetime, while I don't know if that ever happened in the case of excommunication.</I><BR/><BR/>It happens all the time, actually. There are procedures for it. In some cases, it's easy; in others it's difficult.<BR/><BR/><I>Yeah, butjack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1132071154968131802005-11-15T10:12:00.000-06:002005-11-15T10:12:00.000-06:00Religion doesn't set up the rules; religion report...<I>Religion doesn't set up the rules; religion reports what the rules are.</I><BR/><BR/>As long as they haven't been confirmed by independent parties, they're still arbitrary to me. :)))<BR/><BR/><I>The term is excommunication. I don't see it as a technique for control, but as a technique for self-preservation. Indeed, the phrase "purge the evil from your midst" is used in one instance where Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1131999143967932982005-11-14T14:12:00.000-06:002005-11-14T14:12:00.000-06:00Well, as long religion can set up a set of arbitra...<I>Well, as long religion can set up a set of arbitrary rules (the 10 commandments) upon which our entrance to Heaven depends, I believe this is control.</I><BR/><BR/>Religion doesn't set up the rules; religion reports what the rules are. The book of Exodus doesn't say that Moses sat down and wrote some rules to determine who should enter heaven and who shouldn't; rather, it reports what God toldjack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1131609901239157422005-11-10T02:05:00.000-06:002005-11-10T02:05:00.000-06:00Since I don't believe the debate is pointless (or ...<I>Since I don't believe the debate is pointless (or subjective), I will write some brief comments, admitting that it's a little unfair if you don't reply further.</I><BR/><BR/>I believe it's pointless, because it will have no impact whatsoever on our lives (and thoughts even) besides taking up sometime time and energy. I believe the topic is rather subjective, as we live in so (and were raised Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1131550819926941112005-11-09T09:40:00.000-06:002005-11-09T09:40:00.000-06:00Since I don't believe the debate is pointless (or ...Since I <I>don't</I> believe the debate is pointless (or subjective), I will write some brief comments, admitting that it's a little unfair if you don't reply further.<BR/><BR/><I>I just wanted to point out religion is somewhat responsible for the (religious) people and also for their acts. Yes, I believe in this, otherwise, how could it claim to be in control of our afterlife?</I><BR/><BR/>I jack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1131445263407163502005-11-08T04:21:00.000-06:002005-11-08T04:21:00.000-06:00That's rather self-contradictory, isn't it? A war ...<I>That's rather self-contradictory, isn't it? A war that didn't happen because of the existence of religion? :-) If it didn't happen, I couldn't very well point to it.</I><BR/><BR/>Of course, I was witting, I'm sorry for missing the smiley. Also my comment was a little rushed, just as it's now. I just wanted to point out religion is somewhat responsible for the (religious) people and also for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1131401144235435782005-11-07T16:05:00.000-06:002005-11-07T16:05:00.000-06:00Can you point out some wars that didn't happen bec...<I>Can you point out some wars that didn't happen because of the existence of religion?</I><BR/><BR/>That's rather self-contradictory, isn't it? A war that didn't happen because of the existence of religion? :-) If it didn't happen, I couldn't very well point to it.<BR/><BR/>I hope you will accept the following examples in place of any such war. Religious people <B>did</B> often intervene to jack perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681558050302289235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8092896.post-1131387144874537062005-11-07T12:12:00.000-06:002005-11-07T12:12:00.000-06:00You are right, these wars were fought not for expl...You are right, these wars were fought not for explicitly religious reasons, but (at least in the case of the European and the American wars) the people who fought them were religious. So, what is religion good for, if it's unable to stop the war? Can you point out some wars that didn't happen because of the existence of religion? So, if it's the same number of wars with and without religion, thenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com